SAS-12: Do You Always Get What You Pay For?

I’m always on the lookout for bargains, whether I can afford them at the time or not. It’s incredibly hard for me to turn down a smoking deal – so when I came across a curious little 12-gauge shotgun named the SAS-12 for a mere $140 I knew saying no was already a lost cause. A bit of research told me that these guns, originally or perhaps only previously known as Weidong products, have existed on the civilian market since the 2000s. They ranged anywhere from about $150 to $200 making them one of the absolute cheapest new production shotguns on the market in direct competition with typically $150 single shots of various manufacture and typically $200 pump guns such as the Maverick 88 or H&R Pardner Pump. The kicker, though? The SAS-12 isn’t a single shot. It isn’t even a pump action. Hell, it isn’t even a typically semiautomatic – it’s a semiautomatic 12-gauge shotgun that takes removable box mags.

Was this all too good to be true? A semiautomatic magazine fed shotgun for a fraction of the price of a Vepr, Saiga, or even the questionable Catamount Fury? I considered for a moment that they’ve been on the market for going on two decades and I’d never heard of them – surely this wasn’t a good sign. Ultimately, I threw caution to the wind hoping that these had simply stayed a diamond in the rough throughout the years. A few days later, the SAS-12 arrived at my local gun shop. Inspection would have to wait until later as they come more closely resembling a slug than a shotgun with as much cosmoline they’re packed in.

Finding the time later to take a closer look, the guns are fairly simple. A little rough around the edges in points (most notably the buttpad, you’d figure the part you press into your body wouldn’t have a sharp edge but that wasn’t the case) but sturdy nonetheless. The action is reminiscent of an M1 Garand – a piston located in the forend underneath the barrel which links to an op-rod that drives the action rearward. A result of this action type is a substantial amount of gas being vented inside the handguard, making each shot pretty smokey. Not necessarily a downside, but I found it to be a neat oddity.

This particular shotgun did not come with a choke adapter. A brief google tells me that older models did, but this one retains a fixed choke of approximately .69” which is right around a full choke to improved modified. The muzzle, on closer inspection, also seemed to have some odd tool markings with the finish removed in a circular pattern. Once again curious but inconsequential.

The magazines are a huge factor of what can make or break a gun and they’re no exception here. I can’t stress the following point enough: YOU WILL NOT FIND MORE MAGAZINES. They sometimes pop up on gunbroker but at around $50, at the very minimum 1/3 of the cost of the gun itself (with two magazines included mind you), they’re not worth pursuing. Okay, so you can’t get more. But it comes with two, and that’s plenty right? Yes and no. The two magazines that mine came with are three round magazines, meaning with one round preloaded in the chamber you’re looking at a total capacity of four rounds. That’s fine for a range toy or sporting gun, but as a defensive tool should you choose it for that purpose it’s inadequate. There’s a modification that can be made to the magazines however that can allow them to hold four rounds without any complications. Simply buzz off a quarter inch or two off of the bottom of the follower and it will have enough room to compress enough for an extra round. With that considered, five rounds on tap sounds quite a bit better.

So how do the magazines perform? I noticed that they would often have issues feeding if not fully pressed into the gun. The trouble is, they can be brought down just far enough while still locked in place for it to be an issue often leaving you with a tap-rack-bang situation. The four round modification didn’t give me any noticeable issues in cycling, but with the way it was acting up it’s hard to pin it down on any one component.

Recoil is exactly what you’d imagine it to be for a 12ga. Stout, but not unmanageable. If you take the edges off of your butt-pad it’s a non-issue.

On to the main point: How does it cycle?

 

At the end of the day this is the only thing that matters. The short answer is, not well. From what I’d read online the manufacturers suggest a break-in period with stronger loads, so I put about a box and a half of 00 buckshot through it (20-something rounds) to see if it smoothed out. It choked on the first few rounds, then began cycling more reliably, but ultimately still had the occasional stovepipe or jam every few rounds. You could argue that I didn’t put enough rounds through it to properly break it in, but I personally believe guns don’t or shouldn’t need a break in period to begin with. Next up was birdshot, which performed horribly. Surprisingly one or two rounds managed to cycle without telling me that it’s possible for this to be a great gun, but the vast majority failed. Keep in mind this was bottom of the barrel bulk target loads rather than expensive quality stuff so that’s a stipulation, but a proven shotgun like the Vepr 12 cycles it like a champ.

So in conclusion: Should you buy an SAS-12?

That all depends on what you want it for. For defensive purposes? With man-stopper rounds the SAS-12 fails often enough for me to say not in a million years. With the magazine modifications that bring your total round count up to nine rounds of 00 buck (or slugs, #4, etc) that would be fantastic if it had no issues cycling. Well, it has issues cycling.

For sporting purposes? Absolutely, if you only need one shot. If you need more than that you’re out of luck for birds and may or may not get a second chance for deer. Consider one for this purpose if you want to make it extra fair on your game of choice.

For a toy? This is the only thing I can legitimately suggest getting one for. I bought mine on a whim and for $140 I don’t regret it as something to play around with at the range, use as a project gun, or just laugh at.

As for the ultimate budget shotgun, this isn’t it. The Maverick 88 has been the gold standard of that category since its inception for a reason – they go for about $180 at Walmart so pick one of those up instead if you want something you can depend on.

Fel

Fel

Fel is just an average dude who shoots, collects, gunsmiths, and delves into NFA items. He also makes YouTube videos so be sure to subscribe for quality firearms related content.

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7 Responses

  1. Avatar Nick says:

    Got my SAS12 out today for the first time and was VERY pleasantly surprised with it. All I’ve done to it is wash the cosmoline off with hot water and dish soap, then coat every surface in Hoppes no. 9.

    It ate 25 rounds of high brass Federal no. 6 birdshot with only three hiccups: one FTE and two FTFs. The FTE and one of the FTFs occurred on the same round, for what thats worth.

    I then cycled an entire box of cheap Wal-Mart no. 8 low brass birdshot with only one FTF the entire box. Not sure if i just got lucky or if these aren’t actually as bad as they’re made out to be.

  2. Avatar Murphy says:

    Real men are mechanically inclined. It’s a 139.00 gun If it’s not perfect out of the box I fix things. I don’t throw it on the ground and shoot at it for views. Can’t stand that annoying guy in the video. That to me comes off as apathetic American wastefulness. Some Chinamen probably busted his ass making those for his salve driving boss. It’s fun to buy cheap guns and tinker with them. Just put in a lighter spring and wah lah.

    • Don Don says:

      Fel is very mechanically inclined if I do say so myself. I think you may have gotten a little too upset about what is supposed to be an entertaining and informative video about a cheap gun. In spite of that, thanks for the feedback.

  3. Avatar Infowars.com says:

    I’ve got two of these. One I have yet to shoot. Primarily because of the two, it was clearly not as high of quality. It will definitely need work.will

    But the first one cycles well with high brass federal 1330 6shot. Ive put vlose to 300 roubds through it. Maybe 1 in 25 fails, Mostly stove pipes. Going to run some 1500 6shot through it this weekend and see how it goes.

    But here is the kicker….most people got these guns for $140-160 depending on shipping costs… my father got played by a dirt ball and spent $500 on the pair sight unseen. (he knows nothing about firearms, and this guy was supposed to be his friend)

    So, now my only option is to do some work on them. I’ve seen some cool stock / rail systems that would make nice additions assuming I can get them running well.

  4. Avatar Ryan says:

    All the crap guns and no one will send me one or a email getting my address. I cant obtain one! Just one! Id like to tty this SAS12 out, and tinker with it see if it works well for me. Im in Florida. I know of no one who has one, would Give me one, or i cant find one for sale. I would like to get my mitts on one

  5. Avatar JM says:

    Most of these have burrs in the gas port in the barrel that make them not cycle well out of the box (misfeeds from short stroking). It’s pretty easy to take a drill bit and clean the burrs out. They do vary in quality though. I got two of these and my brother got one and the three of them worked fine after deburring the gas port. One of mine I drilled the gas port out a few sizes larger and it cycles low brass Federal very well (as in, every single round in a 100rd bulk pack flawlessly). I’m using all 4 mags that came with my two guns in both of them and they all worked fine, and then I modded them to 4rds and they still work fine. If you got a gun that won’t cycle after cleaning it well and deburring the gas port then you should probably just send it back for an exchange. One other thing to watch for is the op rods were originally riveted together but they changed them to welded later on and my brothers was only riveted and it was loose. I welded it like mine are welded and it’s been fine. Oh and also these are a knock off of the Beretta A300/390/391 series action and most Beretta parts (barrel and action) will fit as replacements (not magazine parts though, the Berettas are tube fed).

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